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Mex@feddit.uk to UK Politics@feddit.ukEnglish · 11 months ago

Government considering banning smoking in UK pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

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Government considering banning smoking in UK pub gardens and outdoor restaurants

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Mex@feddit.uk to UK Politics@feddit.ukEnglish · 11 months ago
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Outdoor smoking ban at pubs being considered, says PM
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Health experts welcome plans but some pub owners and hospitality bosses warn of economic pain.
  • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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    There an element of personal freedom which people find important.

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      It’s not really a ban it’s just a protection for other people’s personal freedoms, I for one would love to get freedom to not smoke in an outside cafe, yet others are choosing for me now.

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        I mean… Just go to a cafe that doesn’t allow smoking at all? Are there none around?

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          No, there aren’t

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      There’s personal freedom, and then there’s just being bloody ridiculous.

      Give it up. You’ll save money, smell nicer, be able to taste better and be healthier.

      https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/quit-smoking/nhs-stop-smoking-services-help-you-quit/

      https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/smoking-and-cancer/how-do-i-stop-smoking

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        I don’t smoke mate.

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          It wasn’t necessarily directed at you. Maybe it might help someone.

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      When you smoke its not just your own health you ruin. It’s the same selfish thinking antivaxers have.

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        That’s not a terrible analogy, but doesn’t resounding support a ban. It’s virtually unimaginable (and I suspect more or less legally impossible) that vaccination would be obligatory.

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          Even though it has been in the past, and lead to the eradication of small pox.

          And should be again to help eradicate measles, polio and many other very harmful, but easily preventable diseases.

          But let’s not go there. I suspect there’s more of them than smokers, but quite a large overlap on a Venn diagram.

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            Yeah, what was legal/feasible 100 years ago might not be the best guide today. I mean no reasonable person would deny it would be better for public health.

            That’s actually an interesting question. All the people I know who still smoke are left leaning and probably pro vaccine. I guess I don’t know many of the main smoking population (older lower socioeconomic status) so maybe there there’s more than coincidental overlap. It would be coherent I guess for the freedom over everything type people I suppose, depressingly.

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          Vaccination in the past has been obligatory, eg for polio.

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            So has lobotomy for certain mental health patients. What’s your point?

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