I’ve installed TLP on my Lenovo ThinkBook laptop and was wondering if there are additional steps I can take to extend the battery life when using the laptop unplugged.

Could you please share more tips and tricks for maximizing battery life on Linux laptops?

  • Veraxis@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I am not sure what graphics you have, but I have an older-ish laptop with hybrid 10-series Nvidia graphics which do not fully power down even with TLP installed. I was finding that it continued to draw a continuous 7W even in an idle state. I installed envycontrol so that I can manually turn off/on hybrid graphics or force the use of integrated graphics. I noticed my battery life jumped from 2-3 hours to 4-5 hours after I did this, and unless I am gaming (which I rarely do on this laptop) I hardly ever need the dgpu in this.

    I also use TLP. I have tried auto-cpufreq and powertop, and I found TLP offered the most granular control and worked the best for my system/needs.

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      7 months ago

      My laptop has Intel UHD graphics. Things are slightly better since I enabled TLP.

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      7 months ago

      Do you know if blacklisting nouveau actually disables the dGPU? It’s a work laptop so the iGPU is more than enough so I figured I wouldn’t bother with bumblebee or whatnot, but the battery life is shit :'(

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        7 months ago

        Sorry for the late reply. It sounds like it could be due to the dGPU if your battery life is terrible. I don’t know if that method would work or not. I had to try a couple different things before I eventually settled on envycontrol.

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    7 months ago

    powertop is a cool tool that can analyze your machine and provide a list of suggested power optimizations

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      7 months ago

      This is the way. You need to check whether CPU and package are mostly in the highest C-states they can be. If not, you’ve got a task or IO device causing a lot of wasted power.

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    7 months ago

    not related to longer battery life per se, but suspend-then-hibernate is the number one improvement to my daily use. the laptop suspends normally and if not woken in an hour, it suspends to disk. upon wake it restores from the swap file/partition. zero battery drain when off, resume from hibernate is faster than cold boot. I can go days without a charger; the other day I’ve “woken” it after like 10 days and did a full system upgrade - the battery and everything else was how I left it. after I was done, just closed it and left it.

    my laptop is my secondary workstation and it’s not rare that I don’t touch it for days. it sucks major balls when I have to urgently leave and find out it’s depleted.

    with systemd-boot and a fast and seamless boot process, this is as close as it gets to stuff Macbooks had more than 10 years ago.

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      7 months ago

      I’ve never had a laptop that hibernates correctly with Linux. Is it something I can achieve with more research or some laptops won’t hibernate anyway? I routinely have that shitty experience when I pick up my laptop to see it has no juice left although I didn’t use it and it was apparently asleep.

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        7 months ago

        it is insanely cumbersome to achieve this, but it is doable and once set up, it runs like a dream. I’ve got it on a T480s (F40), T420s (Arch), MBP 2010 (Debian 12) and MBPr 2012 (F39), all with encrypted LVM + btrfs, some with a swap subvolume, some with a separate swap partition outside of LVM (waaay faster boot, no decrypt prompt - dreamboat!)

        basically you have to allocate a swap file, subvolume, or partition that’s RAM * 1.5 (on account of zram) but don’t add it to fstab. then you have to dick around with systemd scripts that turn off zram and activate swap on suspend and do the reverse on resume. then, dracut or mkinitcpio have to be set up to use the resume funcionality (when coldbooting it looks for the resume swap file and if present restores this instead of booting). also, there’s adding kernel switches to systemd-boot or GRUB to utilise resume.

        edit: oh yeah, also taming selinux to allow you to write to said swap.

        now that would be just enabling hibernation, but I don’t like explicitly activating suspend or hibernate, I wan’t it to hibernate after I’ve left it in suspend for a while; I’ve set it to 60 mins. that way I don’t have to think about it, just use my laptop like it’s actually 2024.

        also, since you’re now coldbooting several times per day, it’s essential that this process is as fast and jerkless as possible, hence systemd-boot with all pauses and timeouts set to zero.

        the steps involved depend on your distro, I’ve made it work with Fedora, Arch and Debian. Here’s a good primer so take it from there and use the arch wiki and experiment.

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          7 months ago

          I’m moderately capable but a bit of a noob and oddly enough have a t480 with Debian and been trying to get hibernate to work. Did you figure this out yourself or was there a guide you followed that you might be able to point me to?

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            I’ve outlined the steps you have to take in my 1st post. basically, add swap, add resume to loader, rebuild initramfs, selinux policies, trick systemd to ignore absent swap (it gets activated on suspend) and that’s pretty much it. then once systemctl hibernate works, switch suspend with suspend-then-resume system wide; optional, if you don’t want that (spoiler: you do want that).

            first made it work on fedora (linked post in my previous reply) and then recreated it in Arch with copious help from the wiki; not much different except mkinitcpio instead of dracut. then redid it in debian first with GRUB and then replaced it with systemd-boot.

            maybe do a step-by-step writeup one of these days if I find the time.

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    7 months ago

    If you’re running AMD, TLP won’t help as much as running a 6.6+ kernel with the proper amd-pstate kernel module running. 6.8 takes it even further.

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    7 months ago

    I’m just using the Balanced power mode in Pop!_OS. I get around 6h of watching videos with 7540U on a 1200p OLED screen (400nit) at roughly 50% brightness. (65Wh battery).

    I don’t have any reference to battery life on Windows as I did not install it on my laptop but I suppose it should be a bit better.

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    7 months ago

    For more power savings, you can undervolt your CPU if it supports it. On some CPUs, it can result in significant power savings.

    Undervolting requires a lot of testing to make sure each core is stable under all conditions. There is no guarantee that a CPU will undervolt well though. Two identical CPUs can have significantly different results.

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      7 months ago

      undervolting can also improve performance, depending on boost behaviour. it feels like you got a better binned chip.

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    7 months ago

    if battery is the priority the single biggest gain I can recommend is to use xorg with compositing off. (Gnome cannot do this, KDE can, if you use a WM then don’t use Picom etc)

    If you can tolerate screen tearing you can save a significant amount of power while web browsing.

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    7 months ago

    In the bios of many thinkpads there are options about powering USB ports while the machine is suspended or powered off. I disable that, because I want battery life even when suspended. Also an option about some windows suspend or S3 suspend, I chose S3 suspend, but don’t have clear evidence this choice makes a difference.

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      7 months ago

      I don’t think that you’re losing any power with the “usb ports powered” option on. It’s just there if you want to use your (sleeping) laptop as a $1000 power bank to charge your phone.

      Personally, I turn it off just because I would rather use a $20 battery pack instead of wearing out my laptop.

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    7 months ago

    I have a laptop with USB-C charging and stash chargers all around the house so I am always plugged-in.

    Works great, the battery life is infinite.