• FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Given we are where we are how can we get to a mutually beneficial position for both the EU and the UK.

    You still don’t understand how the EU works?

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      3 months ago

      Do you not think the EU would want to improve the situation? I thought everyone’s argument in 2016 was that the EU was stronger as a bloc when the UK was inside.

      The logic of the opinion piece is that it the UK isn’t going to be inside the EU for many years if not decades. So what can be done to make the situation better in the interim?

      You can’t be suggesting that hard-line full Brexit means Brexit or You Brexited suck it style arguments in 2024 is the correct approach? Surely?

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            3 months ago

            Yes. It is RULES based organisation. It doesn’t do “favours”.

            And nobody wants to have another Switzerland solution on their hands. So the UK can either apply for EEA membership, EU membership or enjoy what it already has. Or, in the words of EU officials, it first needs to fulfil its existing obligations before asking for anything else.

            I would love to see the UK applying to join the EU. But for that it needs to be full understanding what the EU is - ever closer Union, where the rules apply to all the members and are not renegotiated every five years when some Tory moron wishes so to appease his even more stupid membership base.

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              It is RULES based organisation. It doesn’t do “favours”.

              I hear you, but it sorta does 😂. From the article.

              The geopolitical context also points to the need for more European ambition. A return to the White House for Donald Trump could fundamentally weaken US commitment to Nato and European security. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has seen the return of large-scale war to the continent. This has spurred a willingness to revive enlargement as a foreign policy tool — and implement it more innovatively. Ukraine is now being progressively integrated into parts of the single market rather than being forced to swallow the acquis communautaire — the body of common law — wholesale, showing that the EU can prioritise politics, and think creatively, when it wants to.

              And, again, the thrust of the opinion piece is to say that the EU would be in a better position if it incorporated more political strategic thinking rather than technocratic as it has previously. But, look, it’s an opinion piece. Let’s not take it too seriously.