• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    21 minutes ago

    I vaguely remember that they were already preloading the Office DLLs way back in Windows 95 or XP days.

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    Coming soon to your neck of the woods… Copilot OS! Now with no Windows, only Copilot and a shitty embedded MS Edge. Everything you know as Windows is hidden behind an enforced Microsoft account which you cannot bypass or opt-out! Oh—and don’t forget—you now need a PC with 64GB DDR6789 RAM, RBG+ chipset with tiny peener cache, 2 BRAIN TRACING GPUs, SUPER SECURE BOOT, TrustClock, Lie Detector, Bio-metric reader created by NSA, and their secret time bomb tracker that will secretly ghost all your data at a moments notice and require you to purchase the subscription to ALL STAR MEGA SUPER SONIC ULTRA CLOUD DATA WAREHOUSE. Oh, but hey, at least it’s software upgradable…

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    11 hours ago

    And this is how adding code to Word 97 for 28 years without refactoring works.

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      Interestingly they did the same with Word 97: loaded Office at startup so the individual Office applications would seem to launch faster.

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    Windows already takes far to long to load. I turn on my Linux PC and by time I stand up to get a coffee it’s ready to go, then I remember it’s Saturday and I won’t be using Windows 11 all blessed day!

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    I’m forced to use Windows due to work and damn is it slow. File explorer feels so sluggish compared to Dolphin

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      8 hours ago

      Deleting files and folders in Windows is the one that gets me. It’s so incredibly slow, and if you try to cancel it manages to take even longer “Cancelling…”.

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      13 hours ago

      Yep, it’s quickly becoming absolute garbage, I hate it more every day. Getting home back on Linux feels so much better.

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    13 hours ago

    OfficeClickToRun.exe is years and years old. This isn’t a new thing at all.

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      12 hours ago

      that’s the c2r maintenance process. main job is to set up and update the local files for office.

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        12 hours ago

        It’s a maintenance process which preloads essential office files into memory for usage when you launch the different Microsoft applications so their startup time is reduced as well.

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      Most of my coworkers never turn their machine off, but I appreciate windows taking it’s time. Warming up the work laptop in the morning is like a ceremony at this point. Solid 10-15 minutes to grab coffee, have a chat, check the feeds… Lol I wonder how much time/productivity is collectively wasted across the country from this crap.

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        18 hours ago

        Every time you want a break just relax and if the boss shows up just restart your computer. Tell them you’re waiting for the system to boot after it froze or installed an update.

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            The same with the incredibly powerful CPUs and huge amounts of RAM we all have now. These are little supercomputers, and everything in Windows takes longer than it did 25 years ago on machines with a tiny fraction of the power.

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            14 hours ago

            and to install ‘mandatory’ giant bloated updates faster…

            and to reboot faster after crashes (which may or may not have been caused by the above updates)…

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          I remember my morning routine around 2007-2008 in college before Linux was usable enough for me was turn on laptop, make coffee and have breakfast. Once the clickety clack stopped, check email or something. If it was still clacking away, get ready to head to university and it would have to wait. While I had XP on that thing it did not leave the house unless I was planning to hit the library to write a paper or something that would take more than an hour. It was not worth it to go through the startup procedure between classes. I needed the charger wherever I took it because 20% was lost to either starting up or traveling while on.

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        18 hours ago

        when i set up a new pc i warn the users moving from really old ones that their coffee-fetching and bagel toasting time is about to shrink to zero.

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        Oh definitely. Its shut down every day, has a dedicated dock in the home office, and I open it at 9am.

        Thats when I get my coffee and snack. Its just surprising how much longer I can sit and sip before starting now.

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      18 hours ago

      They also make Edge launch at startup, it also never really closes when you “close” it.

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        Thats because of office I believe, since its using edge underneath.

        Ah, the edgewebview2 crash. So consistent, so destructive.

        This is why I’m glad I mostly just use it for teams, everything else is pretty much ssh from my main workstation (debian).

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          Wait is the stupid lag in Word because it’s running on Electron now??? That explains so much.

          Edit: after a little bit of searching, it looks like it just loads webview2 to avoid having to load it if you open any of the add-in search panels. So the lagginess of new word is just inexcusable.

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        that bit you can turn off in edge settings… but the webview engine stays because of widgets and probably some other bullshit.

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      18 hours ago

      my work windows pc used to fill almost the entire 8gb ram with just the crap that autostarted.

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        Ive got 16gb in the work-provided machine… And I can safely say that more than half is just autostart crap.

        Since I only use it for messaging/email, I don’t much care tbh. Just kind of a fun to note for the laughs though.

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    They shouldn’t have made it so bloated then. The 2003 version opened fairly quickly, even on a late 90’s computer.

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    i’m just surprised HOW they are able to make text editor apps so heavy and slow. seriously, HOW??

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      There used to be a bug in ms word (idk if it’s still there, it’s been years since I last used any ms office app) where, if you had a separate printing server connected to a printer, and the printer was off but the server was online, it would try to fetch printer features, resulting in an unanswered request that would end up timing out. For some reason, word would completely freeze until the request timed out at 30s. No input worked, screen didn’t refresh, window controls didn’t work either. Completely frozen. And the worst part was that word would try to fetch printer features every time you clicked completely unrelated buttons. Want to export to PDF? Frozen for 30s. Want to save your document with a different name? First wait for 30s. Oh, you want to change the page size? You guessed it, 30s frozen.

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    16 hours ago

    shrugs in linux

    Articles like this and the fact they’re still trying to get recall back was reason enough for me to switch again.