Why are so many people ok with a world where you have no say in what your employer does, and they can do whatever they want to suit their bottom line?

Though I wonder how much of this is actually corpophilia and how much is people hiding behind it because they don’t want to say “I’m glad these people I disagree with got fired”.

Here are some threads to show what I’m talking about:

r/technology

r/conservative (though this one feels like cheating)

r/news

r/bayarea

r/google

hacker news

washington post comments

etc…

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    To be fair, if you read the interview with one of the workers, they tried many less disruptive approaches before turning to a sit in. I don’t they risked their jobs without reason.

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      they tried many less disruptive approaches before turning to a sit in

      So they were intentionally disruptive to their employer and you’re upset they were fired? You think people should be able to show up, clock in and then protest their employer on company time on company property and face no repercussions?

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        I’m upset about the people supporting google’s right to make money over any ethics. I’m upset at the idea that employees should have no say in what the company they work for does. I’m upset at people who think this is a good thing.

        The specific repercussions they faced is another matter. But no, I don’t think they were fair. Quote

        Yeah, this was retaliation, like completely indiscriminate—people who had just walked by just to say hello and maybe talk to us for a little bit. They were fired. People who aren’t affiliated with No Tech For Apartheid at all, who just showed up and were interested in what was going on. And then security asked to see their badge and they were among the 28 fired.

        They had to reach out after the fact to tell us, hey, I was impacted by this.

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          So like, if you were in a restaurant and ordered food, but it never came because a couple of the servers were blocking food from being served because the company wasn’t taking a strong stance against abortion, you’d think “these good people are taking a moral stand, good for them! The company better not take any action against them to make sure I get my food!”

          Or for that matter, if Google stopped all cooperation with the IDF, the company’s Jewish employees could (in fact should) disrupt business because Google was supporting terrorism?

          It seems to me that you can only support forms of protest you’d be willing to accept when the other side uses them against you. Basically the golden rule.

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            I’m not sure why you think actively working with the IDF is a passive act, but not working with them is actively supporting terrorism, but it undermines any argument you’re trying to make

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              Makes it easy to dismiss my argument without bothering to think about it, you mean. Just take abortion, then. Or “tax is theft”, or right to bear arms, or any of a thousand other beliefs you probably don’t agree with.

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                why yes, having an improper argument makes it easier to dismiss. This isn’t like a typo or missed word that you can say I’m trying to weasle out of talking with you, it’s a completely skewed perspective on the situation that makes it impossible for us discuss because we’d effectively be having completely different arguments.

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                  Nice, you avoided having to think on a self-imposed technicality. Real intellectual rigor there.

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          I’m upset about the people supporting google’s right to make money over any ethics.

          Well, don’t be, because it’s not happening.

          I’m upset at the idea that employees should have no say in what the company they work for does.

          Also not happening.

          I’m upset at people who think this is a good thing.

          Once again, not happening.

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        Blanket? Not at all. In this specific case I wish Google faced the repercussions rlinstead of the employees.