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  • Alright, bro. Let’s leave it at this point, then.

    I’ll just add that I do agree with you in many aspects. Welcoming nazis to a community, closeted or not, is bullshit. I would never do that. I would uproot those motherfuckers and kick them out for good.

    I just don’t think that Vaxry is one of them - maybe he is one by association, as in “you welcome nazis? Then you’re one!” But from where I am standing, he’s just a privileged moron who thinks that life is simpler than what it really is.



  • There are only so many ways “I don’t care if Hitler is active in my community as long as he doesn’t talk about the gassing in my discord” can be interpreted

    That’s exactly what he is saying. I don’t agree with it, but if you read his stuff, you can tell that it’s pedantry rather than hate what makes him say that.

    and “I just want to code” is not one of them.

    That’s your opinion, and we’re going in circles.

    For starters, the practical issues of moderation and whether he wants to do it are never relevant to his argument throughout the blog post.

    But they are, though.

    He’s saying that “we should not care about people’s political views on a community unrelated to politics, as long as they do not use it to spread their agenda”. The words “we”, “should”, and “care” are pretty clear. This is a moral statement.

    Moral or pragmatic, sure, whatever you say. But the base is not standing on hate. Just… Apathetic practicality? Laziness?

    There are many more quotes that make it clear he is not talking about moderating his own community. His point about Hitler is clearly used to demonstrate his thoughts on how communities in general should be run, and why FOSS communities are getting it wrong.

    We don’t disagree here. But so what? You could also say “fascist shouldn’t exist,” and someone somewhere will say that you’re condoning genocide.

    Bonus points for explicitly listing LGBT issues as a topic one might disagree with.

    You’re not saying anything we haven’t discussed already - we’ve the term transphobia several times already.

    It’s all unambiguous. Vaxry is at no point talking about the practicalities of keeping Hitler out of his community. He is explaining why he thinks Hitler should be welcome into his community and the FOSS community in general, just as long as he doesn’t use these communities to further his goal of gassing people.

    Exactly. We’re going in circles here. You’re attributing malice to this sentence. You’re saying that he is secretly saying “hurr hurr I am a nazi and this is how I get away with it.” He isn’t. I don’t like it, I fucking hate nazis. But I don’t think he is one. He’s probably autistic before being a nazi.

    If there was ever any confusion over whether Vaxry doesn’t care about the toxicity or just can’t deal with it, this blog post definitely clears it up. He doesn’t care. He’s welcoming evil and harmful people in his community and in all communities and he takes a stance against the people who have an issue with this.

    Correct. More of the same.

    Your interpretation doesn’t work unless you ignore all the words he uses, the logic of his arguments, and even the fucking title.

    It does work.

    The only thing I’ve seen him say on the incident of harassing a trans person by editing their profile to change their pronouns is that it was “unprofessional”.

    Because it was unprofessional from his point of view. He’s not secretly and deliberately condoning transphobia.

    Ah yes, seeking people to harm because of their race and innate characteristics and banning people from your platform because of their morals and behavior. Equally bad things. I see the rights and wrongs of both sides now.

    Again, we don’t disagree. I should have that phrase stored somewhere, ready to be pasted when discussing with you.

    Look, show me a picture of him doing the nazi salute or protesting a pride parade, and we’ll talk.

    Otherwise, I stand by what I said. The dude is a dense moron. Not evil.