Fair enough, I figured being a Lemmy user was enough indication that I’m a legit Linux user that’s annoyed by this, but yeah I see what you mean

I refuse to edit it and will eat the karma as it lands, as is my fate

E: ah, someone else did basically the same joke I did but they left an obviously legit review, so mine looks like I’m making fun of them. My comment is older, or theirs went up as I made mine, but I totally see what the issue is now, mines beneath theirs and looks like sarcasm at them

I seem to have angered some people, the downvotes are almost equal with the ups lol

Its not series to anyone who thinks it is

I’m doing my part!

This remains my #1 complaint every time they send me a “how are we doing” survey

I check, then reply:

Your email app still doesn’t support basic functionality like creating and editing filters, something I had to code for a phone app back in high school

Like, holy shit, the feature exists on desktop why the fuck can’t I have it in the app rreeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Because they found it interesting and wanted to discuss it with people?

Just because it’s low priority doesn’t mean it lacks any interest, we can exist between extremes

Most people would roll their eyes and move on

Quite famously 1% of the community are posters, after all. Who the fuck cares what a normal person would post? OP wanted to

and yet it’s being upvoted because “hooray tribalism” over something as asinine as OS (really kernel) choice.

Lol, it’s being upvoted because most of us recognize the sub and it’s pathetic mod and are laughing at being reminded of them, if the comments are anything to go by

this is a website for posting things

Deep, complex reasons

I love the arrogance of telling somebody what they mean

You used words that mean something. If your half baked mind has invented new meanings for the word that’s on you, not me

You’ve descended into “I just need to be right” now

I never wasn’t

No point discussing anything.

You’d have to be coherent for that first

I said “like it’s rape or something” - I didn’t say you’re saying it’s “tantamount to rape”

ESL or just pretending like you don’t know those are the same thing?

I’m just talking about the language people use like they’re being personally violated by snaps.

Theyre literally just using the words to describe what is happening, why are you being weird about it?

Getting hardcore incel vibes from your attitude, might wanna work on that

Is their UX still a nightmare even after 20 years of complaints?

Did a quick google and it doesn’t look like 3.0 is gonna be unfucking that, so maybe that

It took me too long to get everything working myself because people love to share shit exclusively in CLI format and look down at anyone who asks for YAML it seems, so I’m always glad to pass it on

(I can understand CLI, but the ADHD brain finds YAML much easier for documentation purposes and it surprises me how many people seem to disagree)

Ok, had my wife send me the file from my network

networks:
  main-network:
    name: ${COMPOSE_PROJECT_NAME}
    attachable: true
    ipam:
      driver: default
      config:
        - subnet: configure
          ip_range: this
          gateway: yoself

services:
  # Gluetun - <https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun>
  gluetun:
    image: qmcgaw/gluetun
    container_name: gluetun
    networks:
      - main-network
    cap_add:
      - NET_ADMIN
    environment:
      - PUID=${PUID}
      - PGID=${PGID}
      - TZ=${TZ}
      - VPN_SERVICE_PROVIDER=custom
      - VPN_TYPE=wireguard
      - VPN_PORT_FORWARDING=true
      - VPN_PORT_FORWARDING_PROVIDER=protonvpn
      - WIREGUARD_ADDRESSES=use your own
      - WIREGUARD_ALLOWED_IPS=0.0.0.0/0
      - WIREGUARD_PRIVATE_KEY=nope
      - WIREGUARD_PUBLIC_KEY=69420
      - WIREGUARD_DNS=
      - VPN_ENDPOINT_PORT=
      - VPN_ENDPOINT_IP=
    volumes:
      - ${DOAPPDAT}/gluetun:/gluetun

I left in the wireguard stuff without my details because for me Gluetun refused to work when setting the exact same info to wg0.conf, so I define it in my compose

Then, services that rely on gluetun go below and look like:

# qBittorrent - <https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/qbittorrent>
qbittorrent:
  container_name: qbittorrent
  network_mode: container:gluetun
  image: lscr.io/linuxserver/qbittorrent:latest
  depends_on:
    gluetun:
      condition: service_healthy
  restart: unless-stopped

Works perfectly when I run it through portainer

What works for me:

Networks first in docker-compose

Gluetun first in Services, uses the network I set for it and the stack

Everything else goes below it, relying on the gluetun CONTAINER (I plan to have another stack running gluetun for other reasons so having it check the service is a no go for me) to be running in a HEALTHY state

All are set to restart: unless-stopped except gluetun, which is never

The expected behaviour is that containers will always wait for gluetun to report that it’s healthy before trying again to restart. Should gluetun fail and crash for any reason it won’t reboot and potentially fuck itself up harder, and no services will be able to start because it’s not reporting healthy.

This works perfectly in portainer and should when running docker-compose up, but for me it took portainer to work. Saw someone somewhere mention it has some sort of priority handling override built into it that docker itself doesn’t, meaning it’s less likely to fuck that lind of thing up, but idk how true it is

I’ll see if I can remember to snag a couple snips of my YAML to make it more clear

My main 2 reasons for installing it both come from needing to restart services sometimes:

Portainer let me allow other people access to restarting specific containers that occasionally misbehave

Portainer lets me update and restart all of the containers running in my VPN stack without breaking. For some ungodly reason, even with dependency set and everything in docker-compose, a CLI reboot will basically always start a service or 2 before gluetun is actually advertising it’s in a healthy state and everything breaks. With portainer that doesn’t happen, with the exact same compose, and I don’t get why lol

Ok i get it, it’s best practice to do rushed releases without QA because users are the free testers.

You literally used the wrong version. As I stated: the app you’re talking about clearly states it does not have a stable release for the version of nextcloud you’re running.

They definitely had no way to know that their own app was incompatible

They knew, and told you, right on the app page

Idiot user who believed their newsletter "update now, hub 9 is the best thing ever

You said it, not me. I tried being nice but that really is what happened: you fell for what the marketing team wrote and skipped basic IT steps in doing so. Now, rather than just admit you made a mistake that a LOT of people have made (including me, I’m a fucking idiot too) you are whining and doing your best to me talk gymnastics this into you being a victim of something

How you managed to convince your IT department of anything with a knowledge that shallow and an attitude like that I’ll never know. Grow up.

then a bit of warning is suggested

Which was given by the app that gets broken by the update

Windows doesn’t tell you that upgrading to 11 will break x, y, and z that you have installed, you’re expected to go to the sites for those programs and check if they work. Same exact idea

The same company making both apps is never a guarantee that they’ll play nice day 1, for many reasons

I’ll repeat: learn from your mistake instead of blaming other people for your naivete. If an app is important and might break during an update of something: check the apps documentation to see if it supports said update

Literally just googled “nextcloud forms” and looked at their supported versions and whaddya know, it says right on that webpage that there’s no stable version for 30 yet, so safe bet would be that it wouldn’t properly work when upgrading:

There is a supported nightly build, though, so you could probably have tried that

It’s on you to look up what will break when you update, or to test and see what happens when you do. A major update page isn’t going to list all of the things that rely on it that break because that’s fucking unreasonable

I’m starting to see a pattern in those comments like “why did you wear a skirt that night? It looks like you asked for it…”

Cute victim mentality, but gross and insanely wrong comparison

Learn from your mistake and don’t update without testing next time, it’s 100% on whoever updates the production environment to make sure that shit isn’t broken for whatever reason before pushing it customer-side

It’s more like you bought a random white powder from your dealer without asking what it was and are now upset you almost died

No, and I explained multiple times why

Ok but you’re just factually wrong, a special version of games is not needed for the steam deck, it uses the PC version of the game

Can’t hold the power button on my PS to load into “desktop mode” and operate it exactly like my desktop PC though, like I can on steam deck

Games need to have different Spec Recommendations for PC and one specific optimized version for Steam Deck. Both are separated.

You’re just wrong here, they don’t need special versions at all, you’re normally just given windows .exe files and told to use proton to make the games work, even

This is good, actually, as it lets you change your settings in-game just like on normal PCs, so if you want more battery life you can turn them down, or if you’re plugged in you can turn them up

Your idea there is just bad and wrong, sorry