You’ve got about 3 days for them to get processed by customs. Even if they arrive tomorrow, if customs is delayed and they don’t process until Friday you’ll get to pay a processing fee and a big pile of tariffs.

What country do you live in and how much should you be punished for living in it?

Github is basically social media but for tech nerds. Social media networks naturally monopolize, as they primarily have value because everyone else is already there. If you put your project on Github and it is popular you might get 2k “stars” and regular pull requests. If you put your project on an alternative you might get 10X less of both. So people make decisions about the trade-offs between exposure and avoiding Microsoft

The US has been punishing open source contributors from countries they don’t like.

For academia I recommend having an IT cost center responsible for the hosting infrastructure, namely virtualization. Then let people have VPSes (or similar) as needed to run docker-based services. This makes it easier to handle network and security concerns. Most large universities already offer something like this to students and faculty.

Why do you want to host them? Usually the difficult parts are necessary because they’re needed to have the level of control, security, and privacy that is the reason a person is self-hosting in the first place. And there are not enough simple standards for running software securely so you do need to learn some nerd stuff to do it right - but no so much that it is impossible for a beginner.

Nice. Thanks for answering!

How do you produce F-key presses (F1, F2, etc)? I assume you can do so as a combo with a modifier key.

The year of the Linux desktop gaming handholdis upon us.

Set up a proper backup system for your server. I like to use borg. Just to be safe, make a copy of your drive as well (like full disk rsync). Then do a clean install and restore as if your drive had failed. If your backups missed anything, you will now know and can fix your backup system and can still recover from your rsync’d drive.

You might also want to take this opportunity to start administering your server with code, like using ansible or other remote provisioning tools. This makes your system configuration reproducible so that you only really need to back up a few kinds of data like media files or databases.

We had a nice run where everyone was working together or are last tolerating each other, it was peaceful. But the US Russia and China are drifting further apart and becoming less reliant on each other, which sadly means it’s not going to be as peaceful going forward.

At which point was it “peaceful”? The US invaded 3 countries around then and bombed and couped many more. Millions were killed.

Also they are not going to tolerate each other as much China Russia already have their versions of Linux distorts just imagine there might be more differences in the future.

Yes this will eventually lead to forks due to the US forcing decoupling. It is a highly aggressive terrorist state.

I think it is unlikely that they are simply bad at PR and not trying to do damage control for something they would like to push anyways eventually. Why are they creating a proprietary element in the first place? Is the selling point of their product not that it is open source? They are making some changes.

…or they made an honest mistake and don’t care to put it back on F-droid for reasons to which we are not privy.

An honest mistake of hosting their entire own repo and writing up documents for it? It isn’t just off F-Droid, they are doing their own thing.

I bring up these counter-examples not as a way to point out where I’m right and you’re wrong, but to point out that there are other candidate explanations, and it’s not justified to infer that malfeasance is the only likely possibility.

Yes you are suggesting that people give them the benefit of the doubt. And I am saying that would be unreasonable given the facts.

I also understand why you would cynically think that Bitwarden might succumb to Capitalism—I too live in a late-stage-capitalism country—but that’s not a forgone conclusion, and I say again that we don’t need to be imagining villains when there’s plenty of objectively real ones at which to point a finger alreadIy

Bitwarden has already succumbed to capitalism, it is a product by and for a for-profit company. It is, with few exceptions, just a question of when they will have a profitability crisis and need to find avenues by which to increase revenues or decrease costs. Sometimes that takes 15-20 years, sometimes it takes 3.

I have not followed their finances but I would be curious to know what they are doing at the moment. Could be seeking to get bought out, could be looking for new funding, could be working around the needs of a major client, could be something else.

As always, when a project is backed by a company we should approach it tentatively because while they will provide support for it for some time they will eventually be tempted to do something shady to increase profit. Or to just be profitable at all, which investors always want ASAP when interest rates are high. And then we will need to fork it and see if it is feasible without VC backing. To my knowledge the only other viable path for an open source company is to become an industry standard where the major monopolies decide to not fight about it and instead say, “it is fine as it is and won’t be profitable but it is a useful thing to share costs on”. Docker, Inc. is somewhere along that path, scraping together products at the periphery of the software while the industry monopolies more or less share the core project in its various compatible forms. And Docker similarly tried to ham-fistedly seek profit sources like when it tried a silly fee scheme for Dockerhub and created a small exodus that the monopolies ate up (e.g. GitHub).

Where is that a excuse? I was pointing out that it’s not a petty dispute, russia is trying to wipe out Ukraine…the fuck.

You just repeated the excuse. Right there, lol. And Russia has caused far less damage to Ukraine and its people than the US has to its targets. You are simply inconsistent and don’t believe your own logic. Your true motivations are elsewhere.

Ooo oo, I know this one…is it…whataboutism again for $400 alex?

Oh, am I not allowed to point out your inconsistency because you have a term for doing that?

Yea…no it’s not, russia is doing that on their own.

This post is about a thread where the people who removed Russians from the list did so under pressure by the US federal government are: their sanctions policies. It is literally exactly what I said and not at all what you said.

Please do your best to speak the truth.

Ok. Reality, russia is a fucked up authoritarian state that willfully sends it’s people to rape, murder and commit war crimes, like it got its war plans from the viking era. How’s that for some reality. Champ.

It’s you distracting yourself through repetition because you cannot honestly respond to my points. So it is the opposite of facing reality, it is evasiveness.

Yea…yea it is.

Nope

Sweet…are we getting somewhere…

No it is just trivially the case.

Ahhh nope apparently not…still humping about the USA.

Because they did the thing that you agree deserves kicking out their citizens from the maintainer list. And they did it more.

Hahahhaha holy fuck…o wait you’re a tankie…

Are you laughing at the mass civilian bombings or the starvation of children?

And a russian apologist…man this is just hilarious…you really are following the .ml tankie guidelines.

It seems you are afraid of basic facts that contradict your beliefs.

Lol for all the west’s faults, we’re still not even half as murderous as the authoritarian dictatorships you love.

The West’s civilian death count is orders of magnitude higher than the RF invading UA.

Yea no…

You did, accidentally.

Because it’s easier to just use sanctions as the reason. The idea that a authoritarian state wouldn’t force their devs to create backdoors for their state is hilariously naive, but you won’t see it that way because you’re a brainwashed tankie.

Ah yes, the thing you just made up that hasn’t happened and calls every developer in the country “their devs” is surely more correct than decades of code review practices and individual track records.

Re: brainwashing, you will notice that I am not the one running away from inconvenient facts at every turn. I am not afraid of such things, but they are clearly a threat to your way of thinking.

Yea no shit? Who said they are?

I quoted what I was responding to and that sentiment permeates it.

Of course you inherently cannot trust a private company to keep their product open, including open core models. In that situation everyone using or contributing should be making a gamble: that if they go too far the project will be forked, the company will cut its community in two, and the fotk will go on to be decently successful as a community project.

Their inability to do the right PR things is just a signal that they can’t be bothered with the facade that is useful for them to maintain community support and FOSS nerd marketing for their product.

Re: ethics, they are no longer on F-Droid because they tried to get this in under the radar and include non-free code in builds. Instead of fixing that problem they made their own repo.

Bitwarden will likely eventually destroy their FOSS model for profit-seeking, it is just a matter of when. This is how these things work.

Our feudal patrons are so stingy!

Not trusting a company that has been quietly undermining open source builds of their android client and being cagey + using guarded and laconic PR speak on this is not fallacious thinking, it is just recognizing behaviors and knowing why a company would be doing that. These companies hire people to craft responses and otherwise manage their “community”, and providing no assurances of permanently open clients when they tried to pull this is an intentional omission.

Western Europe has committed to making itself an American dependency. This same thing would eventually repeat there but with different aesthetics.

This kind of thing is the inevitable outcome of US policy to “decouple”, which they are pushing. Take something they nominally control, kick out every designated enemy / enemy collaborator, and then watch as an alternative pops up among the " enemy" and ban its purchase or use.

No this has nothing to do with the USA right now.

Here’s you making excuses for removing all the Russians from the contributor list: “Russia invaded a sovereign nation…but that’s a petty dispute…are you sure you’re on the right instance? Sounds like you need to recreate your account here on ml…”

Your logic, if you can call it that, is that if the country you’re from invades a sovereign nation, it makes sense to get kicked off the list. Guess which country invades sovereign nations every 3-6 years.

To make another point, of course the US is relevant, its government is the one making this exact thing happen.

No more excuses, champ. Gotta look reality straight in the face.

It’s a strawman to whip out the “but the USA” card.

lol no it isn’t.

Russia has sanctions

Yes we all know this.

they invaded a sovereign nation

The US has invaded at least 4 sovereign nations in the last 21 years. It has bombed far more in that time, including couping Libya, turning it from the highest HDI country into a failed state with open air slave markets.

and are willfully targeting civilians

The RF has been comparatively less harsh on civilians. Look at what the US, NATO, and Israel do to civilians. They bomb residential buildings, pharmaceutical factories, hospitals, schools, buses, civilian infrastructure. Millions died in Iraq, about half children, in the 90s due to the US systematically destroying civilian infrastructure and then coordinsting tight sanctions.

And do you know what preceded the RF invasion? Ukraine ramping up its civilian shelling campaign in Donbas.

They’re fully against the west at this point

Given what the West does with its power that is a smart position to take.

allowing them continued access to help build tools the west uses,

Yes and? You’re just admitting that this is a chauvinist political move headed by the United States.

is not only against the current sanctions, it’s also a dumb security risk as well.

It’s not a security risk at all, the Linux team has tight review procedures and all of these people have been making contributions as maintainers. There were zero concerns raised about their code.

PS the US is not entitled to the world and every international project.

She said 500 people were deported

Okay one last note: she estimated 500 Jews were deported in a single deportation. You can go ahead and read the book that you have no read and that I have if you want the privilege of asserting otherwise.

Such proud, unapologetic, arrogant lying.

Okay but really, last reply. Have a nice life. Hope you find a way to stop huffing your own farts.